League of Legends vs Dota 2 – Which Community Is More Toxic?
In League of Legends and Dota 2, the Elo and MMR factories never stop working. This unfortunately results in a toxic environment for everyone involved, because just like with any other competition, people want to win and are emotionally invested in what’s going on.
On the surface, a rank is nothing more than a label with an underlying number. Yet people go insane when this number decreases, especially if someone else is to blame for this tragedy – which is always the case, right?
I’m sure you’re familiar with the eternal rivalry between League of Legends and Dota 2 and have probably heard a lot of discussions on the theme “which of the two is the better game or esport?”. We’re here to tackle a different question: which of the two has a more toxic community?
Toxicity in League of Legends
League of Legends undoubtedly has its fair share of toxic players. This ranges from the usual trollers, typing ragers and intentional feeders, to the more sophisticated Tyler1 types, who rage for the show.
While League has an extremely toxic community, the level of toxicity varies throughout the world as some regions may be much more toxic than others. Not only this, but each region has a dominant type of toxic player.
Though Korea is widely regarded as the best region in LoL, consistently producing the highest level of competitive talent such as Faker, Crown or Bang, their region is very toxic with a ton of inters. At all levels of ranked play, most Koreans who solo queue have a mentality to throw or afk games the instant they think it’s a loss. If you watch Korean streams, even at the highest ranks (Challenger), mid laners will run it down mid if their jungler fails to give them the second Blue Buff.
A large number of inting videos on Reddit usually feature popular North American streamers. However, the region isn’t that toxic overall. Reddit users are largely from NA, so it’s no surprise that most videos calling out toxic players in a hope to get them banned, come from the region. Sure, there is the occasional flamer in every game, but compared to the other regions, NA is great.
Now, to the most toxic region in the world: EUROPE!
Europe has always been a notorious region for flamers year after year. Not only is the European solo queue filled with flamers, the competitive scene also has much more trash talk, and no, it’s not always friendly banter.
Toxicity in Europe is dominant by anger-fueled-keyboard-warriors who racially insult both the enemy team and their own teammates. Could this be the result of an entrenched racial bias between the various European nations, mixed with national pride and combined with the pressure of the game?
Toxicity in Dota 2
Toxicity in Dota is a very nuanced topic, but for a start, just read these game reviews from Steam:
My Blood pressure before playing: 110/70. My blood pressure after playing: 200/95. The salt is real. Recommended.”
– tastemyspear –
“If you are worried your children are doing drugs, show them this game. They will be too busy fulfilling their innermost masochistic desires while hopelessly right clicking that they will not have the time for drugs or friends or anything else really.”
– samwisethebravelotr –
11/10 game (including updates). 1/10 community (
including myself). Quit playing. Try to be a better person.”
– Alk_ –
Horrible experience and teammates yet I keep getting back into the game once a week. +taught me many languages like Russian +always mid or feed +always shout at your teammates if they aren’t doing a good job.”
– Demonic Odd –
Dota2 community is seriously the best I’ve ever seen for my entire life. They’re so concerned with us players to the point where they ask you are you blind, are you stupid? Never in my life have I seen someone who asked me such a thing, it touched my heart. They’re legit concerned if I’m blind and stupid, probably they want to take me to the hospital if I really am. They even suggest to delete the game as I’m playing it too much! Best!”
– Monika –
Dota 2, just like League of Legends, is a complex MOBA game played in a team vs team format. It also involves people emotionally, like Schindler’s List.
Which means you’re going to war (digitally of course) with your army of randomly selected teammates and hoping to win (you must, right?!). But, (surprise!) not everyone in this world is calm, patient, thoughtful, polite and emotionally stable. And that of course leads to certain misunderstandings (aka shouting matches), especially when the “game is hard”.
The thing that makes Dota 2 such a perfect flame simulator is its rich and multidimensional communications system. While playing the game, you can:
Use team chat
This provides a wonderful way to flame your own team even before the game begins. The most common reason is of course the fact that someone stole your marked position or hero. Or maybe someone wants to afk jungle for 15 minutes. Or maybe you have no supports. Or one of your cores picked a really bad hero into a direct counter, and you feel like it’s time to end the game prematurely, by feeding mid. Ain’t that the perfect seal of disapproval for the horrible and unfair things that happened during the hero selection phase?
Use global chat
Not only can you flame your own teammates, you can also be rude to your enemies. Have you just managed to get a lot of kills after the enemy team overextended? Spam “?”. Have you killed an opponent like Pudge after he killed you multiple times throughout the game? Unleash your pure hatred, unload your vengeful feelings and tell him how you feel! Are you completely dominating the opposition? Tell them “tutorial completed”. Has your team won the game even though your mid lane got completely destroyed for its entire duration? Say “ez mid”. Make sure you get some kind of emotional revenge, otherwise you’re not playing Dota! Well, not the proper way anyway.
Ping the hell out of them
Whenever you feel like someone is overlooking something important and don’t have the time to flame them in chat, you can always ping them like a madman. Make sure you’re disruptive enough to prevent them from actually focusing on whatever they are doing and pay attention to you. You know, like a 0.5-year old!
Go full Picasso on the minimap
Feeling artistic? Wonderful. Dota 2 allows you to visually bring out the worst in you; when the going gets tough, fill your teammates’ minimap with beautiful drawings. After all, Leonardo da Vinci’s latest discovered painting sold at an auction for half a billion dollars, so why not try your mouse at art too? You never know what masterpiece you come up with during your moments of rage. And maybe your creativity inspires your team and leads to an unexpected victory.
Use the chat wheel
Dota 2 offers predefined phrases that you can wisely misuse just to let your teammates know how you feel. Did everyone on your team die after a stupid mistake? Spam “Well played!”. Are your enemies in your base while everyone on your team is dead? Spam “Push now!” or “Nice”. Are you constantly getting ganked and killed mid in the laning phase? Spam “Space created” or “Thanks!”. Let your roamer feel like he’s actually the one losing the game.
Use your microphone
In Dota 2, using your microphone to flame your team is like activating your ultimate. Use it wisely and respect its cooldown (I’d say a solid 120 seconds). Otherwise people will simply mute you. Also, try to think of the meanest thing that you can say in 5-10 seconds (brevity is key) and then deliver it with emotion, preferably while shouting. That gets the best results and is a guaranteed way to make people hate you and really try their very best to lose the game, just because they have you in their team. You know, losing the game while getting revenge on someone who flamed you isn’t the same as losing. It almost gives people a certain satisfaction in a weird, twisted way.
These are some of the methods of spreading discomfort and toxicity around while playing Dota 2. However, people do say that actions speak louder than words, don’t they? So let’s get into some of the trolling techniques that are available to those who want to let it all out.
Ah, the good old way of making sure the game will be over very quickly. Killing yourself over and over is no doubt the path to freedom (to start your next match), but it’s slightly inefficient, simply because of the low respawn duration in the early game (you’ll mostly want to do this from the very start of the match), which forces you to be active in order to prevent abandoning the game due to afk-ing.
Blocking jungle camps
This is a more sophisticated approach to trolling, often used by people who want to show their afk jungler that jungling is not a thing in Dota. The method is simple: you just buy all the wards and block your own camps at all times.
Leaching XP and taking farm away from your cores
When players want to show their teammates that stealing one’s preferred position doesn’t go unpunished, they often do this and lay the foundation of a slow, painful and memorable defeat.
This is probably the cruelest trolling technique, because it lures people into a false sense of security. You really do appear to try your best to win, and act as if you have forgiven your teammates for whatever happened in the early phases of the game. But then (plot twist!), you show your true face, creating an unforgettable moment of betrayal. In a lot of cases, the feeling of disgust simply makes people uninstall the game. Which is the whole point of it, right?
LoL vs Dota Communities: Final Remarks
As you can see, playing League of Legends and Dota 2 can be a grueling experience. Some say it prepares you for a horrible boss later in life. Others believe it’s a character builder. The player may leave the game and its community, but the game and its community will never leave the player.
Regardless of your reasons to continue hurting yourself by playing League of Legends or Dota 2, let us know which one has the more toxic community in your opinion, and maybe share a personal experience that marked your gaming life.